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Well, the Etos Kosmou of the Byzantine Calendar places Creation at the beginning of its year 1, namely 5509 BC. Those feisty muslims have their very own calendar era that they denote AH for the number of lunar years after Muhammad’s migration from Mecca to Medina.

So using Joe’s logic, we have proof that that nobody can argue that the world started not in 4004 BC (as Joe insists it did) but in 5509 BC. In Saudi Arabia, if you ask them what year it is, they’ll tell you it is 1431 AH.

The Western Christian calendar era was introduced by the monk, I shit you not, Dennis the Short in 525CE in what is now Romania.

The wee Dennis had no more proof of Jesus than any modern person, and in fact may have known LESS about Jesus than we do.

The earliest use of this appears to be a 1716 book by John Prideaux, a bishop in England who wrote about "The vulgar era, by which we now compute the years from his incarnation." Because "vulgar" later came to denote something indecent, though, this use seems to have fell out of favor.

By the 19th century, the use of BCE was common in Jewish writings.

The event may have happened or it may not have happened and we can’t know which is true just by looking at the calendar system in use today.

We must remember that in the past, "vulgar" simply referred to the common people and the countryside and was not necessarily derogatory.Many attempts were made to inform Joe about the truth on this issue and he stuck to his ridiculous assertion and decided to be an arrogant dick head about it.Given that, I have no other choice but to label this a filthy lie. As a post script, I’m wondering why Joe spends every single Tuesday paying tribute to Tiu, the Germanic God of war, every Wednesday paying tribute to Woden the chief Anglo-Saxon/Teutonic god, every Thursday paying tribute to Thor the Norse god of thunder, every Friday paying tribute to Freya the Teutonic goddess of love, beauty, and fecundity, and every Saturday paying tribute to Saturn the Roman god of agriculture and the consort of Ops?Use of BCE and CE thus became common long before Christians started using the labels themselves.Perhaps it isn't much, but every time you use BCE and CE instead of BC and AD, you are showing respect for non-Christian cultures/religions as well as refusing to submit yourself and your writings to a Christian agenda that is all about asserting dominion over culture, politics, society, and even your very thought processes.

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